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Old September 22nd, 2009, 2:48 am
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Little Questions Answered v.17

This thread is meant for short questions and short discussions related to the Potterverse which are supposed to get a clear answer. In depth discussions can be done in existing threads (especially concerning analysis of characters).

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Hey! I was wondering why Voldemort didn't try to abolish Sorting when he first gained control at Hogwarts; why did he wait till a year later, at the end of the book? Just seemed strange to me..... Maybe it was just for dramatic effect, or a plot device so Neville could pull the sword out of the Hat? Thoughts?

For that matter, if the Sorting Hat was burned, why was it still Sorting students nineteen years later?
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It probably wasn't even burned, it was just on fire.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 9:19 am
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Re: Little Questions Answered v.17

Yay! New version

I would agree with ally_xx. The hat wouldn't have survived a thousand years if not for protective charms. I don't know about Voldemort's intentions, though. It seemed to me like a thought of the moment. Not a very-well thought out plan. Probably he wasn't expecting people to defy him after Harry's death. And Neville's action took him by suprise.
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A question of my own. Can the contents of the Room of Requirement change while someone's inside it? In one of the DA meetings Harry thought that he needed a whistle. And he found one on a shelf in front of him. Does that mean it appeared when he needed it. Or was it there on the shelf in the first place?


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Yes I think the room of requirement caters to the needs of the person who is using it. So when you think of something it appears. Harry needed a whistle to get everyone's attention so the whistle appeared. In DH more and more people came into the Room to hide from the Carrows and the room grew bigger and provided hammocks and even a bathroom when girls came to stay.


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Yes I think the room of requirement caters to the needs of the person who is using it. So when you think of something it appears. Harry needed a whistle to get everyone's attention so the whistle appeared. In DH more and more people came into the Room to hide from the Carrows and the room grew bigger and provided hammocks and even a bathroom when girls came to stay.
It seems like the basic essence of the room cannot change while occupied, though. Harry needed everyone out of the room before he could get it to change back to the room where the diadem was hidden. Plus, the room did not become what he wanted it to be while Malfoy was in there.


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It seems like the basic essence of the room cannot change while occupied, though. Harry needed everyone out of the room before he could get it to change back to the room where the diadem was hidden. Plus, the room did not become what he wanted it to be while Malfoy was in there.
Thats true. But this could be due to the fact that Malfoy and Harry needed different things. Also Harry needed to get people out, because he wanted something different than what they did. He wanted the hidden objects room. While they needed a place to hide and get ready for the battle. So probably in such cases, the room doesn't change and simply keeps its form.

Needing a whistle didn't contradict with the other occupiers' needs, though.


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Thats true. But this could be due to the fact that Malfoy and Harry needed different things. Also Harry needed to get people out, because he wanted something different than what they did. He wanted the hidden objects room. While they needed a place to hide and get ready for the battle. So probably in such cases, the room doesn't change and simply keeps its form.

Needing a whistle didn't contradict with the other occupiers' needs, though.
I agree. If the occupants needs contradict each others, than the room will not do anything.


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Re: Little Questions Answered v.17

A question related to Veelas. Do veelas affect men who are already in love with someone else? Fluer didn't seem to have much of an effect on Harry -who had affection to Cho-. Yet she had great effect on Ron. Who wasn't in love with anyone, then. Also she didn't have real effect on Cedric or Krum who were both in love, iirc. Could love possibly be something that works against Veelas?


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A question related to Veelas. Do veelas affect men who are already in love with someone else? Fluer didn't seem to have much of an effect on Harry -who had affection to Cho-. Yet she had great effect on Ron. Who wasn't in love with anyone, then. Also she didn't have real effect on Cedric or Krum who were both in love, iirc. Could love possibly be something that works against Veelas?
You make an extremely good point. I think that you may be on to something. I'm going to say yes.


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Re: Little Questions Answered v.17

It's a good suggestion, but I don't think we can give a doubtless answer to it based on what we know from the books.


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With the herds of Hippogriffs and Thestrals living at Hogwarts is there anything in canon that those herds are the property of the school or are they the property of the MoM ? I know that the MoM has the power to order them killed but who do they belong to ?

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Re: Little Questions Answered v.17

I would think that they are the property of the school. If they were property of the Ministry then there would probably be a lot of paperwork that would need to be filled out in order for Hagrid to get the animals for lessons and things like that, and Hagrid wouldn't like to do that every lesson.

Also, I think that if the animals were property of the Ministry, Lucius might've been after the Ministry instead of the school when Draco got hurt.

Another point is that the thestrals were just lying around in OotP when Harry and Co. needed to use them. I think that the Ministry would have put better protection against potentially dangerous animals such as thestrals.


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I think that they probably belonged to the school.


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I think that since Hagrid cares them for and uses them for lessons, it is safe to assume that the school has some responsibility over them and can probably call them their property.

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With the herds of Hippogriffs and Thestrals living at Hogwarts is there anything in canon that those herds are the property of the school or are they the property of the MoM ? I know that the MoM has the power to order them killed but who do they belong to ?

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I got the impression from what Hagrid says about the Thestrals that they belong to the school who keep them in the forest.
I am not so sure about the Hippogriffs. Other than Buckbeak we don't see any other Hippogriffs at Hogwarts, except for during Hagrid's lesson. It could be possible that he may have just acquired them for that particular lesson. Although, the letter Hagrid recieves from the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures, says:

OotP, The FireboltThe hearing will take place on April 20th, and we ask you to present yourself and your Hippogriff at the Committee's offices in London on that date.


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As for whether they belong to the MOM I suppose that depends on whether the schools land is ownded by them. In England state schools are owned by the government, up until OotP I assumed that Hogwarts would be similar however, considering the level of indignation at minor interference it seems that that is not the case. So is Hogwarts more like a public school?
My question then, is whether students pay school fee's, people like Riddle and Harry were offered a 'small fund' to help pay for books and supplies but fee's weren't mentioned. The school seems to me to be open to everyone, the exclusivity being magical abilities.


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As for whether they belong to the MOM I suppose that depends on whether the schools land is ownded by them. In England state schools are owned by the government, up until OotP I assumed that Hogwarts would be similar however, considering the level of indignation at minor interference it seems that that is not the case. So is Hogwarts more like a public school?
My question then, is whether students pay school fee's, people like Riddle and Harry were offered a 'small fund' to help pay for books and supplies but fee's weren't mentioned. The school seems to me to be open to everyone, the exclusivity being magical abilities.
I think that Hogwarts is not owned by the MoM. Also, I think it's free to anyone
with magical abilities. The money Riddle received was probably for books and clothes & stuff.


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My question then, is whether students pay school fee's, people like Riddle and Harry were offered a 'small fund' to help pay for books and supplies but fee's weren't mentioned. The school seems to me to be open to everyone, the exclusivity being magical abilities.
Was Harry offered fund? I don't think so. Hagrid just showed him his vault at Gringotts, and Harry got some gold from there, with which he bought all his school things.
About fees, I don't recall anything from canon which states that students pay fees. I've always wondered about how possibly could Dumbledor pay his teachers if students don't pay fees in the first place. The only reason I think students didn't pay anything, is that the Weasleys were never worried about paying any gold to the school. They were usually worried about the amount of books they'll have to buy.


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It's possible that Hogwarts owns the land and buildings, but the school itself is funded by the MoM and donations from the School Governors. Thus, the herds would belong to Hogwarts.


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It's possible that Hogwarts owns the land and buildings, but the school itself is funded by the MoM and donations from the School Governors. Thus, the herds would belong to Hogwarts.
Perhaps the wise founders established an endowment which has prospered over the centuries?


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