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Old June 23rd, 2003, 6:55 pm
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Orginal by Pansy:Up to the point that I've read, Hermione's feelings are very in the dark. I think she doen't like either. However, something is bothering me, Harry's annoyance at how Ron and Hermione bicker... its as if Harry is thinking to himself "get a room already or just kiss and get it over"... as if Harry is suggesting that Ron and Hermione are meant for each other.
Not that in the dark if you read how exactly she react to Cho and to Harry. Than you need to compare Hermiones perfect playing with Umbridge as she try to use crucio at Harry. That girl lies like a champion its interest and all people around her believe her till she say the name and the DA and Harry know she lies. This is in a situation what you can call as very stressfully now I ask myself how well can she play? If she can think about it long enough. At this point comes the V-day into play. Hermione knows with who she will be in the three broomstick though she say to Harry he can bring Cho with him. After this kiss Hermione have to know that Harry don´t know how a girl think so it might be a good idea to tell him he should say he don´t like to meet Hermione. But did she do that? No, she didn´t much care even it was V-Day. Do you really think she don´t know what a girl might think if she comes with her boyfriend in a pub to meet his best female friend which was as rumor his girlfriend and meet there that woman who wrote it? Think about it.
I don´t think Harry dos think so he is suspicious at he comes to Sirius house and know that they were together and didn´t care about him but not as he told them to shut up.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 6:55 pm
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You also tend to be very protective of very close friends or those you might see as soulmates and that's the role she's sliding into. And yes, she kissed Harry on the cheek before they separated at King's Cross. The temporal placement of the kiss doesn't mean anything as this isn't an Oscar Wilde play, but it's important to note that Harry is confiding a lot more in Hermione than he is in Ron and they tend to do solo adventures whereas he and Ron hardly ever do anything without Hermione.

The good-luck kiss which really seemed mostly to be about inspiring Ron and calming him down (I don't know why I ever decided to try this, etc.) but Ron was very taken with it. Although Harry grinned afterwards, Ron was totally thrown. His reaction (touching his cheek as if wondering, did that just happen?) seems to indicate that he is falling for Hermione and realizes it. Hence his encouragement to Harry to find a girlfriend who isn't Hermione, any girlfriend and his increasing desperation as windows start to close. He may have awakened too late to his feelings.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:02 pm
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sorry to jump in but dosent Ginny now date Dean Thomas


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:15 pm
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H/Hr thing I completely forgot....

Yes, all of you have your reasons...and I completely agrre with what Pansy said....

However, I disagree with hermione liking Harry YET...I think she doesn't like him although she might like him later..she is now really into the study thing..she is really clever in everything, ...but everyone knows that she is always right except when she gets too emotional...
I forgot to say, even though JKR said long time ago their friendship was platonic, she said in the NBC interview when they asked her : "Harry and Hermione! Do you think so?" She was being cryptic about it...

IN the beginning of the book, Harry's anger was mostly at Ron for becoming prefect....

he was also angry at how they spent a lot of time TOGETHER...yes, they said that in BIG LETTERS...... and even Harry asks with resentment: "So what have you two been up to?" and he was resentful about it...It couldn't mean anything..but it could mean a lot too.... I really think that Harry and Ron will have troubles over there about this..


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:22 pm
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Because remember - we've always said,t he platonic quote refered to the present tense - POA/GOF. Also, while Harry wa sangry at how much time they spent together...as the book pregresses...despite Ron and Hermione both being prefects...didn't Hermione spend more time with Harry than with Ron?


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:30 pm
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I liked what happened between Cho and Harry- just a childhood crush that was gone by the end of the book, but I am still waiting for stuff to happen between Hermione and Ron! Though they did argue a lot, definitely a sign of liking each other, picking on each other...


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:31 pm
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Yeah, but when he got angry was at the beginning.....He felt kind of left out..Hey, that's how jealousy starts.....Maybe he spent more time with her on purpose...Also, he only seemed to react seriously at her..like, when she ordered him to get out of the room b/c she needed to talk to him. He did it immediately....Of course, there si always the possibility we could be reading signs that aren't there really....but I do remember that Harry thought he was angry because he was in Privet Dr while Ron and Hermione were TOGETHER having fun..the key work is TOGETHER...


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:36 pm
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I don't think he was mad just because they were together - he was mad because they were together without him - they completely left him out - or that's how he felt...


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:42 pm
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I was surprised there weren't any big romances. I was especially surprised with Harry and Cho. Didn't he want her? But how she acted around him and all wasn't that great. And Ron and Hermione didn't show too much compassion towards each other...except for that kiss before the quidditch match.


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Was it just me, or did anyone else find the kiss between Harry and Cho comedic?


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:43 pm
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yeah..that what I said, I felt left out, but maybe he would want to be with her more in the future b/c he would not want to feel this way again, and that would carry to something else, b/c he might realize he really like her company.....


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I'm very glad that Harry got Cho out of his system. It was, as many said, a teenage crush, and nothing more. Since most people have already mentioned the chances of what ships may float or sink, I won't bother putting my R/Hr biased comments into the mix.

Hoever, now I can see JKR is at a bit of difficulty. Either Hermione goes with Ron, and the H/Hr shippers are dissapointed, or Herminone goes with Harry, and the R/Hr shippers are dissapointed. Will she just keep them as friends for the rest of the series? I have a feeling going in that direction will not please anyone.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 7:56 pm
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Was it just me, or did anyone else find the kiss between Harry and Cho comedic?
I thought it was hillarious "it was..... wet!" LOL
Also, very tactfully done.


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I have to admit, I was very disappointed in the fact that we didn't see anything really happen between Ron and Hermione except for the kiss on the cheek before the Quidditch match. I wish there could have been more in the book about their feelings but I think it might mean that JKR is saving a possible relationship between them in the last two books. Now that I think about it, having them get together towards the end would make them stay together rather than having them get together in Book 5 and have them break up. I guess JKR did it for the best.
Now....regarding....Harry and Cho. When I read about them and their kiss, I was really surprised. I thought it wasn't possible for them to get together because of the fact that she used to be with Cedric. I was glad that Harry had his first kiss but with Cho? I know most people on the boards thought that she would be busy mourning Cedric to pay attention to Harry. I really didn't expect that.
As for Harry and Ginny: I think the "furtive glance" that Ron gave towards Harry at the end of Book 5 when he told Ginny to choose "someone better next time" was a clear signal that something might happen between them later on in the books. I was happy that Ginny grew up a bit. I think it makes a relationship with Harry more possible but I don't think we would have been ready for a Harry and Ginny relationship anyway.
Now i just want to read Book 6! All the questions that are left unanswered.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 8:27 pm
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This is shown yet again when Hermione kissed Ron on the cheek instead of Harry, as she did in GoF.
I was under the impression that she kissed Ron, and moved to kiss Harry, but it cut to Ron being surprised.

But, anyway, I'm glad Harry and Cho are over. I never expected it to work out, as he only knew that she was pretty, but not so much about her personality. He got it and didn't like it.

Now. Harry and Hermione. *swoons* I loved the closeness. I was honestly disappointed by how Harry treated her throughout the book. The yelling, and all. I wanted her to slap him, and bring him back to his senses.

I think Ron and Luna could very well get together. She seems to like him, and he doesn't notice, like with every possible relationship he doesn't have going one.

And Harry and Ginny. I've never had faith in this ship or liked it, and I'm really glad that Ginny has moved on, and I hope she never returns.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 8:31 pm
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About Harry's description of the kiss--I literally said to the book "What are you, Rain Man?" This is Dustin Hoffman's description of Raymond's first kiss in the movie Rain Man.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 8:40 pm
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Yeah, usually the Prefects (as a school group) spend a lot of time together. But Hermione spends much more time with Harry than with Ron. A lot more. Odd. Of course the whole Prefect unity thing could be blocked by the fact that four of the Prefects are blood enemies but still. Also, in spite of a slikghtly more active Ravenclaw role, all of it focused on women who were not Prefects. Cho and Luna Lovegood who's nice and all but could we maybe shelve her like the Creeveys for a bit? Please? Thanks. There was no Padma Patil to be seen (mercifully) and we barely met Anthony Goldstein. Hey did you notice that almost all the non-Slytherin Prefects were in the D.A.


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In my opinion there wasn't much romance in this book.

Major shock about Ginny's 2 boyfriends.

Harry being an idiot about his relationship with Cho.

Ron and Hermione's relationship going 89326 steps backwards.

Luna being mystically weird.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 9:24 pm
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I thought the the romance angles were perfectly done. I enjoyed the sheer youthfulness of them. How refreshing that relationships can be so realistically done and that JK did not resort to the Soap Opera Syndrome.

Harry and Cho: Thanks Cho, for introducing Harry into the mysteries of the female mind. You served a purpose.

Ron and Hermione: coming along nicely. Loved Ron's "Why don't you worry about me?" Also loved Hermione's good luck kiss on Ron's cheek--and no, she didn't kiss Harry as well.

Ginny's a crack-up (a person who makes you laugh out loud) who's playing the field. Harry will have to put forth some effort if he ends up wanting a relationship with her (my personal feeling is that he will want to).


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Honestly, I was expecting a little bit more..however, it was very well written.

The Ginny thing bothered me...please don't let her bea "scarlet woman"

The Harry/Cho thing was beautiful. I knew it might not work to well, but for the most part..it was great.

Ther Ron/Hermione thing. I was hoping for more here. But did you notice that when Hermione kissed him..he kinda well, focused on that a lot. I knew their relationship would grow more.


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