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Old December 2nd, 2007, 5:58 am
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Re: Are we too old for Harry Potter?

Most all of the books I read come out of the children's section. Not because I can't read "adult" books, they just don't compare with children's books. Children's books have so much more imagination! I think that's because children are more open to believing in things that adults find time consuming. Most adults find it hard to believe in things like magic because we as humans try to find logical reasons for everything. When a writer sits down to write a children's book they're really letting out their inner child. I think it's a pity that most people decide to kill this part of themselves because they are more focused on "growing up". Growing up is about taking responsibility, not becoming boreing...


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Old December 2nd, 2007, 7:56 am
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As Rowling hinted at many times, the books weren't necessarily meant as childrens books. They were just the fabrication of her imagination. It just so happened that the books became immensely popular with kids. When asked if it was moral to lace such dark themes in the later installments, she responded that she had this planned from the very beginning, and she wasn't going to cut out anything just because the book was mostly read by children. She said herself that the books would have very dark themes and a lot of death and fighting. And if Rowling says the books wasn't initially meany for children, I can assume it is safe to say that one is never too old for Harry Potter.

It's also a matter of passion. Passion is not restricted by youth. I suppose I'm not an adult yet, since I am only 17, but that doesn't mean I'm ever going to stop reading Harry Potter. Not when I'm 30. Not when I'm 70. If you love the series, the plot, the universe, then you can never bee too old for Harry Potter.


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Old December 3rd, 2007, 2:58 am
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Hi! I am 30 years old (turning 31 in a couple of weeks). All the people that told me that HP is for kids, have not read the books themselves. So, how can they know it is just for kids?? I was introduced to HP by a friend of mine who is 32. I read all seven books in one month. Could not stop reading. I even read while at work!
I enjoy reading very much, and read a lot of "grown up" literature, both in spanish and english. But I had not read a book (or a series of books) so creative, clever and enthralling such as HP books in a long time.


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I haven't gone through all 10 pages, but has anyone actually said we are too old for Harry Potter?

Anyway, my answer: Absolutely not. Now, I'm not going to say that these books can't be called children's books, because there is a certain shallow surface appeal to children (my interest began when I was 12), but I really honeslty believe that the people getting the most out of the books are the adults. That's one of the great things about Harry Potter actually; if you want to take it at face value, it still works as entertainment for any age; if you want to approach the series with an analytical eye, then there has always, of course, been room to do so, to go deeper. That might seem obvious, but work as versatile as this really doesn't come around all that often. Besides, whenever I'm in a crowd for any HP event (book release, movie showing) most of the crowd has been comprised of adults. So no, I really don't think there's such a thing as being too old for Harry Potter.


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How can you be too old for something that brings you so much pleasure?


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Old December 3rd, 2007, 3:40 am
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NEVER!! I am 33 and I am proud of being HP fan...if I was 73 I would have been even prouder



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Children's books have so much more imagination! I think that's because children are more open to believing in things that adults find time consuming.
I just finished reading "Half Magic" to my little girl and a constant theme throughout the book is that they can't let any grown-ups see the magic because they won't believe it. This book was written in the 1950's. There are other books I have read by E. Nesbit that follow the same theme - and those were written in the 1900's. Is it a pattern throughout literary history that says that only kids are interested in the fantastical, the imaginative?

As an adult, there are only so many adult themes I want to read about. How many 'coming of age' stories can I read in a year? Or abusive relationship stories, or family overcoming hard times... I like escaping into books, and having that alternate world really is a departure from the mundane same old story I've read over and over again.

One of my fairly recent favorites is Life of Pi. And at first it was billed as adult fiction - but recently I've seen it in the young adult section. Like it was too much fantasy for a grown up, kids might like it better. What a bummer!


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Old December 3rd, 2007, 9:59 pm
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I think good literature has several layers of meaning that is enjoyed by different ages. JKR wrote a wonderful story that would enthrall millions of children (including my own) to want to read, over and over. However, she textured her characters in complex studies that embody more adult themes: love, loss, loyalty, fate, duty are all intertwined and may be a little heavy for kids to conceptualize beyond the story.


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Most all of the books I read come out of the children's section. Not because I can't read "adult" books, they just don't compare with children's books. Children's books have so much more imagination! I think that's because children are more open to believing in things that adults find time consuming. Most adults find it hard to believe in things like magic because we as humans try to find logical reasons for everything. When a writer sits down to write a children's book they're really letting out their inner child. I think it's a pity that most people decide to kill this part of themselves because they are more focused on "growing up". Growing up is about taking responsibility, not becoming boreing...
I agree completely! There's something about children's books that is just far more entertaining (and also the author's name doesn't take up three quarters of the books cover). There's just so much more imagination and innovation that we don't see in adult fiction.

I told my English teacher they were my favourite books and he told me I should be looking for something more "complex". I told him if he didn't have the time to read the books, I'd personally write a report about the complexities of the books. So now I'm saddled with seven reports! (not that I mind)


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People have been telling me I'm too old for HP since I was eleven. And yet, here I am, nearly a decade after picking up SS, still obsessed with them...

I don't think my love of HP would have lasted this long if they were as juvenile as so many people think they are. Even when I first started reading them, the other things on my bookshelf were more 'adult' - The Diary of Anne Frank was my "other favorite" book at the time, I got really into Shakespeare when I was twelve, and the year after that I read The Catcher in the Rye and left "children's" books behind me entirely. The beauty of HP, however, is that they are accessible to all ages. As I've grown up, I've been able to relate to different aspects of the story and get a lot of deeper meaning from them. Her characters aren't static, and that's what makes the story so interesting. Her younger characters grow up (as do her younger readers), but the adult ones are also human in their ability to learn and grow. Jo's writing itself is unpretentious and complex in its simplicity; again, the youngest readers are able to understand her while those of us who are older can still appreciate the artistry behind the words.

You can never be "too old" for a book, just too close-minded to appreciate it. The people who dismiss Harry Potter as children's books apparently underestimate the impact such a book (not just HP) can have on anyone, young or old. Often times it's just plain snobbery. Of course, not everyone likes the books and that's fine, just don't cite age as a reason.


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I told my English teacher they were my favourite books and he told me I should be looking for something more "complex". I told him if he didn't have the time to read the books, I'd personally write a report about the complexities of the books. So now I'm saddled with seven reports! (not that I mind)
Be careful what you wish for!!! What kind of English teacher doesn't recognize the complexities that are found in children's literature. I don't think "adult fiction" lacks imagination. It's just that well received adult literature, especially the classics, seem to thrive on developing complex layers and subtleties to their plots that drive the story, rather than just telling a good story.

Most "children's" literature has had complexity and messages that are complementary to telling the story. The Chronicles of Narnia, Grimm's Fairy Tales, Aesop's Fables all have complex messages, but subordinate those messages to the actual story.

That's what makes JKR's achievement so remarkable. She created a fantastic world out of whole cloth in a skeptical age and time and geared its story for kids who will read it over and over as they grow up and find the adult context as they go along.

In that way, the series will be alive and continue to live as we grow older.


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No one is too old to read and enjoy Harry Potter.

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Re: Are we too old for Harry Potter?

Unless your so old you can't see the print on the pages even with reading glasses...then I'll be too old for Harry Potter.


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Unless your so old you can't see the print on the pages even with reading glasses...then I'll be too old for Harry Potter.
I respectfully disagree! Then you will listen to Harry Potter on audio tapes.


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Re: Are we too old for Harry Potter?

I don't think Harry Potter is limited to a certain age group. What I personally love about the books is that, though it's a fantasy series, it has a realistic portrayal on humans and is filled with surprising twists. Even better, it has humor, something a lot of books I read lack. I don't think that adults can't appreciate this, honestly.

If someone loves something, I think the person has every right to love it. Age is just a number, so I don't think it's "wrong" for adults to love books that bring them happiness.


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Oh I hope that no one ever feels to old to enjoy a wonderfully written story.
I almost made a tragic mistake, when my sister suggested that I read the Harry Potter series.I told her that I didn't think children's books would interest me. She said, with a knowing smile, just shut up and read them okay? So I did. I loved each one of the books, I fell in love with Harry and Hermione and Ron. I discovered Mugglenet, read all of the wonderfully written editorials, and anxiously waited (as did everyone else) for the last book to come out. I have to say (with thanks to my sister) that I am a true Harry Potter fan. And no...I don't think I am too old for Harry Potter, (and neither is my sister,) she was 45 and I was 48 at the time she introduced me to the wonderful world of HP!


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It's impossible to be too old for harry potter. i wouldn't care if it's a bit childish, even if i was about 50, but they are amazing!!!!!!!


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I dont think so.Its like that old saying you are never too old if your heart stays young.

we are young at heart....


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People tell me all the time that I'm too old to be reading Harry Potter
Because it's for kids
And magic isn't real and
The books were so predictable
And not complex at all
And they stunk and
Blah, blah blah.
I throw things at them.
I love the series,
And it's VERY far from being un-complex and predictable.


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People tell me all the time that I'm too old to be reading Harry Potter
Because it's for kids
And magic isn't real and
The books were so predictable
And not complex at all
And they stunk and
Blah, blah blah.
I throw things at them.
I love the series,
And it's VERY far from being un-complex and predictable.
People who say that haven't read the books and have misconceptions about it, that's all.

And if I may be permitted, the past tense of "to stink" is "stank", (like drink, drank, drunk or shrink, shrank, shrunk*).

* "Honey I shrunk the kids" is actually a grammatically faulty title.

And no, the books are not at all predictable. That's what kept the suspense up to the end, because we didn't know whether Harry would live or die. In the middle book, who could have predicted Cedric's death?

Complexity: The series is complex in some ways. In others, it's a bit too simplistic, but let's not get into that. We've addressed the matter in other threads.


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