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Morgan Freeman is a great actor, or at least he is really serious about his craft, but he seems to be cast into a bunch of cookie cutter roles. Tom Hanks? He's a good actor, not a great one. He wins the award for being better than Kevin Costner most of the time. Quote:
As for Shutter Island? I thought it was all right, but I'm not sure how much Oscar power it will have. It was a good film, to be sure, but the highlights were the cinematography and art direction, not the acting or directing. The script was just not good enough to give the film its much-needed umph, but clearly I'm alone in this opinion. I don't think the fact it was released so early in the year would hold back a director such as Scorsese from getting the nominations when they're deserved, but I doubt he'll get much out of this one apart from a few more fans. |
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No offense, but I basically disagree with your entire post except the part about Shutter's chances
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Kevin Costner: Swing Vote (2008) - boring Mr. Brooks (2007) - interesting, decent acting The Guardian (2006) - boring For Love of the Game (1999) - boring Message in a Bottle (1999) - really boring The Postman (1997) - interesting Tin Cup (1996) - decent film Waterworld (1995) - personal favourite The Bodyguard (1992) - pretty bad JFK (1991) - pretty good Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) - good film, bad acting Dances with Wolves (1990) - good film, passable acting Field of Dreams (1989) - not my favourite, but good sports film Bull Durham (1988) - good story The Untouchables (1987) - good story Tom Hanks: Angels & Demons (2009) - boring The Da Vinci Code (2006) - boring Catch Me If You Can (2002) - good film, passable acting Cast Away (2000) - boring, melodramatic The Green Mile (1999) - long film, boring acting You've Got Mail (1998) - boring Saving Private Ryan (1998) - good film, good acting Apollo 13 (1995) - over-dramatic Forrest Gump (1994) - decent film, good but tired acting Philadelphia (1993) - good film, good acting Sleepless in Seattle (1993) - cute but boring A League of Their Own (1992) - good film, passable acting Joe Versus the Volcano (1990) - personal favourite The 'burbs (1989) - good story, good acting Big (1988) - cute but boring The fact Hanks has been more recognised by the Academy doesn't really mean much to me. For the purposes of this thread, it makes it easier to say he's more likely to win an Oscar, if he decides to do something outside of boring, but looking through those lists, I don't see much that sets them apart from each other. They both lean toward dramatic roles. They both take themselves too seriously. They've both been in some really excellent films and in some really boring ones. They were born one year apart. They started their careers around the same time in tiny irrelevant roles and eventually made a splash with their looks more than their acting. They both have about the same amount of big star power despite being the same amount of boring. The only real difference between them is that Costner has sort of turned into an anecdote for all bad acting (he's not actually the worst actor in the world) and Hanks has better public relations. I said Hanks was a better actor than Costner most of the time. The reason I used Costner as a benchmark was because he has become an anecdote. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. It's my opinion. You can disagree but saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make sense. How can I be more clear about it? He is a good actor, not a great one. I don't apologise for that sentiment. I appreciate that you disagree, and I'm sure there are plenty of others who would join you. But for me, they're in exactly the same league. |
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I always cross my fingers it'll be Johnny Depp's year. There are very few times he doesn't completely embody the role he is playing, and he has never been afraid to take on some rather strange characters and projects. Even in the more blockbuster films such as Pirates, he really just excels as an actor. Maybe with Rum Diaries, this will be his year, but we'll just have to wait and see. It certainly looks like that role has the most potential Oscar power. |
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Ok, now for the actresses and then I'm gonna switch gears to something else...
Emily Blunt- The Adjustment Bureau Natalie Portman- Black Swan Helen Mirren- The Debt/Love Ranch/The Tempest/Brighton Rock Julianne Moore-The Kids Are Alright/Chloe Robin Wright Penn- The Conspirator Julia Roberts- Eat, Pray, Love Megan Fox- Jonah Hex (kidding! ![]() ![]() Naomi Watts- You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger/Mother and Child/Fair Game Amy Adams- The Fighter Rachael Weisz- The Whistleblower Nicole Kidman-Rabbit Hole Hilary Swank- Betty Anne Waters/The Resident Ann Hathaway- Love and Other Drugs Keira Knightley-London Blvd./Never Let Me Go/Last Night Personally I'd like to see Keira Knightley or her twin look-alike finally get recognized. (I thought Natalie won for her childhood performance in Leon, but I guess I was mistaken) I'd say by virtue of the amount of films she's in this year though, Helen Mirren is perhaps the favorite to win. And then Keira and Naomi who look to each have 3 films that might yield contenders. Now one I didn't list up there was Michelle Williams for Blue Valentine and this segues into my gear shift... So, I see the Cannes Film Festival is just finishing up and from what I've read there looks to be three notable films out of that- Another Year, Blue Valentine, and Biutiful. Historically how much a role have these film festivals played in Oscar selections? Also, what sort of films are previewed at these? I didn't think it was any really high profile and/or blockbuster films but it looks like Robin Hood was screened so I guess not? And Woody Allen's latest film was also screen apparently. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he a really high profile director? ![]() Anyways, so if we look at those three films a bit more closely... Blue Valentine- starring Ryan Gosling and Michelle Williams (both are one time Oscar nominees) Plot: The film centers on a contempo married couple, charting their evolution over a span of years by cross-cutting between time periods Sounds to me like a more modern Revolutionary Road. It also sounds like these two put on an acting clinic from what I've read...I'm curious how they compare to Leo and Kate. But I think the real question is, come next year will this film just be recognized for it's acting or what? I notice some sites now have it listed as a Best Picture contender as well. Oh, and I'm not sure how much this play in but I've also read that it's very very very depressing. If it's more depressing then the aforementioned I'm not sure I'd be able to handle it... ![]() Biutiful- directed and written by Alejandro González Iñárritu (Oscar nominee for Babel and director of Amorres Perros- #164 on the IMDB Top 250) starring Javier Bardem Plot: A man involved in illegal dealing is confronted by his childhood friend, who is now a policeman I'm looking at this director's filmography and he seems to be like a Mexican Chris Nolan. What I mean is it looks like he also hasn't really made a "bad" film yet, but like Nolan his body of work is limited. I dunno, if he remained consistent and Javier Bardem put forth another great performance as he did in No Country...then this could be force to be reckoned with I suppose. The plot sounds interesting enough. But is this a "foreign film"? I can't really tell. ![]() Another Year- directed and written by Mike Leigh (6 time Oscar nominee) starring Jim Broadbent and Imelda Staunton (2 Potter actors! ![]() And I have no idea what the story for this is...IMDB doesn't have any info on it yet.
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Also, just because a film is an official selection still doesn't mean a whole lot. It might the the most reliable previews of the film festivals, but they still screen a lot of films that just wouldn't make it with large audiences, American or otherwise. It's always worth looking at the lists and the winners and the reviews, and they're definitely good for making predictions, but no one should be surprised that a Cannes film doesn't do really well at the Oscars. |
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Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough because I had to run out earlier. Only official selections can win the Palme d'Or. Robin Hood and Inglorious Basterds (not 100-percent sure about this) probably were only Premiere films, not official selections, therefore, they couldn't qualify for the Palme d'Or in the first place. I'd really have to look through a lists of Cannes films and Oscar films, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some crossover. The important thing to remember, however, is Cannes is a renowned international film festival with much less interest in the commercial value of film and much more interest a broad spectrum of high-quality world cinema than the Oscars.
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Inglorious Basterds Precious Up The Pianist No Country For Old Men Babel Sin City Mystic River About Schmidt Cidade de Deus Moulin Rouge Mullholland Dr. O Brother Where Art Thou Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon Requiem for a Dream La vita è bella LA Confidential Crash Fargo The Usual Suspects Pulp Fiction The Piano Beauty and the Beast Reservoir Dogs Thelma and Louise The Little Mermaid I wanted to go back and comment on this. I just remembered that I actually saw Justin Timberlake in a movie from a few years back called Alpha Dog and his acting was surprisingly good. So he may not end up being such a bad choice afterall and I guess Fincher would have him in his movie if he didn't think he was a good actor. EDIT: So I just came across a comment that caught my attention and I don't know a whole lot about the Oscar selection process so I thought I'd see if anyone here knew... Can this actually happen? Quote:
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I didn’t put extremely much effort into this, but here are my predictions for Best Picture Nominees:
Ten Contenders: My Own Love Song, Miral, Another Year, Black Swan, Love and other Drugs, Somewhere, True Grit, Biutiful, All Good Things, The Next Three Days. These might have a chance too: The Kids Are All Right, Winter's Bone, 127 hours, The Social Network, The American, The Conspirator, You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger, Blue Valentine, Shutter Island (personal favourite), Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 (wishful thinking). Last edited by Noldus; June 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm. Reason: Some adjustments |
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So perhaps this is pre-mature and I should ask this after Inception has been released...but does the Academy have a rule against multiple nominations for the same actor? Someone on the IMDB boards mentioned this and I guess I didn't realize this wasn't possible. In that case, I shall re-ask the question from above that nobody has yet answered
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His performance in Shutter Island was standard at best, but it's an interesting question. I would imagine it is allowed for an actor to be nominated twice, but I doubt they would do it for the actor's sake (and don't worry, it won't happen with Leo, at least this year).
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Watched the trailers for Love and Other Drugs, The American, and The Next Three Days earlier...all look great. However, I'm now doubting whether they will be Oscar films. The first looks much more rom-com then I think people were expecting and the other two might be too action oriented. If an action film is in the mix it's gotta be Inception, though if the year remains weak I suppose it isn't inconceivable with 10 slots perhaps at least one of the following makes it as well- The Adjustment Bureau, The Town, The Next 3 Days, and/or The American
At this point the general consensus seems to be that Inception and Toy Story 3 are ensured a BP nom, and perhaps one for that indie film The Kids Are Alright. I think Shutter Island might still have a chance, but let's see what the end of the year brings. Looking forward to... The Adjustment Bureau The American (Sept. 3rd) Deathly Hallows: Part One (Nov. 19th) Love and Other Drugs (Nov. 24th) The Next Three Days (Nov. 19th- woah, that's the same day DH releases!) The Town (Sept. 10th) And no trailers have yet been released for the following... Black Swan (Dec. 1st) Hereafter (Oct. 22nd) The Way Back (no release date announced) The Tree of Life (no release date announced) True Grit (Dec. 25th) EDIT: Apparently The Adjustment Bureau has been pushed back to 2011 ![]()
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