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Old December 31st, 2009, 6:11 pm
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Whatever happend to Crookshanks?

both I and my sister thought for sure that Crookshanks was going to have an important role in the last book. He always seemed like he knew something the others didnt. For example, in the POA he knew the black dog for who he really was (innoncent sirius).
Why do you think nothing ever came of him in deathly hallows?


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Old December 31st, 2009, 7:28 pm
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Re: Whatever happend to Crookshank's role?

I can't believe there's not already a thread about this, unless it was archived for lack of traffic.

Honestly, Crookshanks' role got faded out of the series far too abruptly for my liking. I suppose the books were already getting fatter and fatter with every installment up to OotP, but IMO it could have been a great addition to have a half ginger, half Kneazel character going about digging up secrets and leading the Trio to clues they'd never have found without help.

I can see where Dobby needed to be developed a lot more, especially if JKR planned his death in DH early on. But Crookshanks is sadly underdeveloped after his role in bringing the true identity of the Prisoner of Azkaban and the Werewolf Lupin to light!

I don't recall any mention of him whatsoever in the final book, and honestly I don't remember there being much about him in HBP either. I wonder if Hermione sent him away to Australia along with her Parents?

I bet he'd have helped the Trio find the horcruxes if they'd kept him about.


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Old December 31st, 2009, 7:37 pm
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Re: Whatever happend to Crookshank's role?

I can't remember Crookshanks appearing in the HBP book, but he did have a small role in the sixth movie: shortly after Harry arrives at the Burrow, we see him jump down from the stairs as Ron and Hermione are discussing why Molly almost decided to keep her children away from attending Hogwarts due to the approaching danger. It would have been nice to see more of him in the books, but it also would have been difficult to manage an animal, however intelligent he may be, during their hunt for the Horcruxes, particularly during the Gringotts break-in.


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Old December 31st, 2009, 8:16 pm
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I really like Crookshanks in Prisoner of Azkaban. He was really clever and I liked how he had good intuition about Sirius and Wormtail.

I wish he could have carried on in a bigger role throughout, but I can understand why he didn't. I think the search for the Horcruxes was really a Harry/Ron/Hermione thing. I think that had Crookshanks found one, it may have lessened the difficulty involved in finding the Horcruxes.
Yes, he's a clever cat, but I don't know if he is clever enough to overcome the difficult magical obstacles involved in finding and destroying a Horcrux. I sort of think that the search for the Horcruxes was supposed to be a growth experience for Harry, Ron, and Hermione. I don't know that using Crookshanks for help would have allowed the Trio to grow in the ways they needed to.

I do wonder where he was the whole time the Trio was hiding out in the countryside. Maybe at the Burrow?


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Re: Whatever happend to Crookshank's role?

I wonder if Hermione sent him to stay with her parents via Portkey or something like that. Yeah, like the rest of you, I didn't like that he had a minor role. Perhaps PoA was his shining moment...and the rest of the books he's like an ordinary house cat.


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I, too, really enjoyed Crookshanks' role in PoA. He was funny in OotP, chasing the Extendable Ears. I think, possibly, after killing off Hedwig, it might have been dificult to keep Crookshanks along. I do wish there'd been some way she could have written him in. She seemed to start building him up to a bigger role, only to drop him altogether later on. I guess a house elf trumps a kneezle.


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I honestly didn't see Crookshanks as being meant to have a role beyond hinting that Scabbers (and Padfoot) were not what they appeared to be in PoA. I think it was fine for him to provide a few moments of entertainment here and there during the series - he wasn't really a character I saw as having much potential for a bigger role beyond the one he played. Also, I agree that there didn't seem to be much room to write a larger part for Crookshanks given the importance of the horcruxes and the defeat of Voldemort.


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Re: Whatever happend to Crookshank's role?

For the record, I don't think Hermione would want Crookshanks tagging along. She knows it's dangerous, and she doesn't want him to meet a sorrowful end like Hedwig.


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both I and my sister thought for sure that Crookshanks was going to have an important role in the last book. He always seemed like he knew something the others didnt. For example, in the POA he knew the black dog for who he really was (innoncent sirius).
Why do you think nothing ever came of him in deathly hallows?
Rowling has a tendency to use throw-away-after-one-use plot devices. Crookshanks was one such; the Veil in OotP was another; the inferi in HBP yet another.


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For the record, I don't think Hermione would want Crookshanks tagging along. She knows it's dangerous, and she doesn't want him to meet a sorrowful end like Hedwig.
She probably wouldn't have. I just liked him and wish he'd been kept in a little longer.

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Rowling has a tendency to use throw-away-after-one-use plot devices. Crookshanks was one such; the Veil in OotP was another; the inferi in HBP yet another.
Yes. Cedric is a good example.


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Rowling has a tendency to use throw-away-after-one-use plot devices. Crookshanks was one such; the Veil in OotP was another; the inferi in HBP yet another.
And never do we get to know what that veil is.People assume alot but it is never stated what it is and why its there.


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Please discuss the Veil here: The Veil - What do you think it could be?

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Old January 2nd, 2010, 9:54 pm
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Anyway alot of the minor characters or non-wizard ones if you like make me smile so i wish they had been included more in the books and especially in the movies.
In the Epilogue we don't even know if Crookshanks is still alive but i think probably not it being 19 years later.



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I do not find it surprising that Crookshanks did not play another vital role after PoA. Hermione first saw Crookshanks because of Scabbers (if Scabbers was not put on the desk of the Magical Menagerie, Crookshanks likely would never have jumped on Ron's head, etc.), so I find it very fitting that Crookshanks's role obsessed around Scabbers in PoA. He was special because he detected that Scabbers and Sirius were Animagi, which ultimately led to Sirius's capture of Peter and the revelations that came with it. Afterwards, without any other hidden Animagi (unless you count Rita Skeeter's beetle, though I am not sure Crookshanks was ever around Rita in beetle form), Crookshanks was a much more normal pet, just like Pigwidgeon or Hermes. I think JKR using Crookshanks as a detector in the following books would have made the trio's jobs much too easy. I can understand how some could claim Crookshanks could potentially detect Voldemort's Horcruxes, but I do not think his ability was that evolved. He knew the difference between an animal and a wizard, but I doubt he would have been any help in detecting a Horcrux in, say, a locket. Therefore, I am glad JKR did not overuse Crookshanks and, instead, made him into a somewhat ordinary pet that Hermione could care for.


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At first I thought Crookshanks was going to turn out to be another animagi that had hidden for years, like Peter Pettigrew

I think in the last book, Rowling had to cut him out just like she killed off Hedwig. The trio couldn't really have gone into hiding with an owl flying off every night, and a cat prowling around hunting for mice. At least she didn't kill Crookshanks too, she just kind of phased him out. She probably thought noone would notice


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Re: Whatever happend to Crookshank's role?

I think it is better that some characters are only for one-time-use. It will be too much like real kids stories (yes, HP was for kids, but still it's different, you know what I mean) where every single little things have to be meaningful, everyone will be hero in the end, etc. Too predictable is not fun.


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I think she would have been sent to Australia with her parents like Lyra said, because if they had a cat around when they were hiding, it's possible he could have escaped and a Death Eater could have picked up that it was Hermiones cat, thus ruining their cover. Like Snape for example, as he was a Hogwarts teacher, he would have been able to recognise Harry's owl. So I think the pets would be unwise for them, as they could leave clues for the deatheaters/snatchers if they escaped or were seen.

And what if Crookshanks was trapped outside of Grimmauld Place? Would she be able to get back in :O? - Sorry, that only just occured to me.


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I think it is better that some characters are only for one-time-use. It will be too much like real kids stories (yes, HP was for kids, but still it's different, you know what I mean) where every single little things have to be meaningful, everyone will be hero in the end, etc. Too predictable is not fun.
If predictable means it makes sense and is logical i am all for it.Still plenty of people treat their pets like as if they were chairs or other non-living things so that does make sense perhaps


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In all reality, Crookshanks is a housecat. An intelligent housecat who plays a role in chasing down a rat who happens to be an Animagus, but a housecat nonetheless. He doesn't have a personality to develop. I don't know if I'd be able to read on about Crookshanks solving problem after problem with a kitty-like charm. I think he's fine for the book about people disguised as animals, but afterwards, he doesn't really need more screen time.


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I think crookshanks only knew Sirus for what he was because they were animals.

Maybe when an animagus turns into a animal form they can communicate with other animals.

I doubt communicating with trevor would be easy though.

Hedwig was very intellegent too but Sirius was not around crookshanks.
I just always viewed that character like any other animal in the series. As a pet.


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