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Old August 11th, 2009, 9:13 pm
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Another secret society in magical world?

I don't think theres another topic quite like this. I was wondering if maybe theres another society like the Order of the Pheonix that also fights against Voldemort? Or maybe it does other things for the good side in wizarding world?

I also wonder what this society would be like, and if Dumbledore or other powerful wizards/witches knew of its existence?


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Old August 12th, 2009, 6:46 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

I doubt there would be any other secret societies in Britain dedicated to fighting Voldemort. Anyone wishing to do so would surely join up with Dumbledore as he is the only person Voldemort ever feared.

However it is possible that societies like the Order exist in other countries. For instance, when Grindelwald came to power I'm sure there were one or more societies dedicated to fighting him.


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Old August 12th, 2009, 7:02 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Well, there was a secret society-gathering sort of thing for the werewolves, so maybe there's one for vampires?


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Old August 12th, 2009, 8:10 am
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I don't think theres another topic quite like this. I was wondering if maybe theres another society like the Order of the Pheonix that also fights against Voldemort? Or maybe it does other things for the good side in wizarding world?

I also wonder what this society would be like, and if Dumbledore or other powerful wizards/witches knew of its existence?
Since Jo Rowling never mentioned one I don't see how another society could exist. Of course, anyone who writes fan fiction is free to invent one in an Alternate Universe.


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Old August 12th, 2009, 11:22 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Or just an alternate country.


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Old August 12th, 2009, 1:05 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Well, I don't really think there is. I mean, the Order sort of had everyone that was willing to fight against Voldemort. So, no, I don't think there is one.


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Old August 12th, 2009, 2:39 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

There might have been such secret societies before Voldemort rose to power, fighting prominent dark wizards and witches of their time. There might have also existed several small gatherings (during the same time OoTP existed) that were opposing Voldemort as well but were probably wiped out by him and his DE.


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Old August 12th, 2009, 2:42 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

You never know I love to say JKR reserves the right to RETCON, I sometimes like to think that there could just as easily be an organization working in the shadows... Composed of a very marginalized group of individuals not sharing voldemorts ideals, but beliveing in the separation of both worlds. Working in silence and in the shadows, who's job it is to gather intelligence and sabotage an organization so secret its composition is unknown to the order and the deatheaters themselves.

Extremely cunning
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Extremely dedicated

They exist in silence and shadow.

Snape's Army!...

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Old August 12th, 2009, 3:01 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Maybe there was, but they were so secret, no one ever heard about them...

But before the OotP, as was stated before, there were probably small groups trying to fight back evil Wizards/Witches, probably the first "Aurors".

The Hogwarts Founders saw that Salazar Slytherin had some aspect of evil, they eradicated him too...would they count?


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Old August 13th, 2009, 4:33 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

I think there were people outside of the Order of the Phoenix who had the same intentions, however, seeing as the Order was supported by Dumbledore, anyone who supported Dumbledore and was anti-Death Eater would probably turn to the Order before any other organization, despite the possibility of it having the same cause.


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Old August 13th, 2009, 3:36 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Theres all some pretty good answers here. I suppose if there was one it probaly would be in another country.
But in reality of the magical world it seems unlikely as DD was the only one Voldemort ever feared unless they were very clever indeed.


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Old August 13th, 2009, 4:20 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

There have probably been plenty of wizarding secret societies...The Order of the Phoenix, the Death Eaters, Grindelwald's followers (The Knights of Walpurgis?), perhaps Guy Fawkes was really a wizard in favor of magical goverment over muggles and his plot was really a secret wizarding group, etc.

But the thing is, the only two groups ever covered in the series are The Death Eaters and the Order of the Phoenix, hence the only two "canon" groups.


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Old August 13th, 2009, 5:11 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Well assmuing that Voldemort had Death Eaters in the Americas trying to work on securing him a postion of power in the Americas, then it would make sense that there would be a form of resistance there, too.


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Old August 14th, 2009, 11:49 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

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Well assmuing that Voldemort had Death Eaters in the Americas trying to work on securing him a postion of power in the Americas, then it would make sense that there would be a form of resistance there, too.
That would make sense, or Voldy would just be king of the Americas and so be it.


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Old August 15th, 2009, 7:16 am
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The Hogwarts Founders saw that Salazar Slytherin had some aspect of evil, they eradicated him too...would they count?
Salazar Slytherin stormed out of Hogwarts on his own; no one eradicated him or killed him even.


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Old August 18th, 2009, 6:59 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

Perhaps so if the war were to go on longer and there were pockets of wizards here and there who couldn't contact the Order and might create in impromptue "Muggleborn Army" or the "Tutshill Defense Association".
Most of these organizations would die out quickly, however a few might survive, grow and become an effective resistance faction equal to or eventually more powerful then the Order of the Phoenix.

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Old August 18th, 2009, 11:37 am
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

I think this thread should belong in the Cloak section.


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Old August 18th, 2009, 6:46 pm
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I think this thread should belong in the Cloak section.
Thats where I originally meant to post it but I guess the mods moved it here.

Also I like Lunatic's idea. Its interesting to think there may have been some wizards/witches who couldn't contact order and so formed there own army.


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Old August 18th, 2009, 7:15 pm
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Re: Another secret society in magical world?

there must have been some sort of underground Resistance when Grindelwald was wreaking havoc in the rest of Europe.


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I'm surprised no one here mentioned the DA. It was a secret association resisting Voldemort and the Death Eaters. And not only a small group of students willing to study defence against Dark Arts. That was their purpose in the begining. But later on they actually resisted Voldemort. They helped protect the prophecy and resisted the DEs in the ministry. They defied the DEs who managed to get into Hogwarts. And later in DH they worked against Snape and the Carrows. Also most of them if not all did participate in the Battle of Hogwarts.
Sometimes it seemed that they worked with and as a part of the OOTP. But they were a distinct association. With a name of their own. And they had their means of communication, that no one other than them had used.
Personally I consider them as 'another secret society' which helped defeat Voldemort and played a great role in the second war.

But other than that I don't think there were any other societies working for the good side. Unless you'd count the Rot Fang conspiracy which was working secretly to bring the MoM down


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