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GoF drives me insane because it didn't have any mention of Winky or Dolby and it was just all wrong.
Stuff that wasn't in the movie that should have: 1. Winky 2. Dolby 3. Sphinx in the maze 4. World Cup (though I fully understand why) The list goes on and on!!!!! Note: it still was a good movie! ![]() ![]() Last edited by Elyse; October 26th, 2006 at 2:36 am. Reason: I put in the wrong phrase!! Ooops!! |
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Winky and Dobby are expensive to make, and their roles are expendable in the story. Therefore, there was no reason to include them in GOF.
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If we're just talking movie....I though the edit of the Shrieking Shack in POA was appalling. We reveal Lupin is a werewolf...it came off like he just had a touch of "something" then it was on to some piece of "revealing" plot information. Snape's comment about "walking in the moonlight" made the point better (if you'd read the books) than it was made in the Shack.
And really, if you never read the book, how clear was it that Snape, Lupin, Pettigrew, Black knew had any kind of history beyond, "oh yeh knew each other in school" I knew a lot of people at school, doesn't mean I want to kill them. So ultimately, while I think POA had a better look to it, overall I more disappointed in that film than the other three.
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Not to mention the other major changes to the Batman mythos. Why does Batman kill people? Why is The Joker the killer of Thomas Wayne? Why is Catwoman an undead zombie? Why is Gordon channelling Police Chief Wiggum? Why is Alfred letting Bruce's girlfriends into the Batcave without his approval? We have talked alot about HP fans & LOTR fans around here, but it is nothing compared to the pure venom that Batman fans have for Burton. They utterly despise him. There is a reason why most people consider Batman Begins to be the only true representation of the character in live action format. I'm not anti-Burton by any means, but people around here have no idea of the type of filmmaker he is and would absolutely freak with the major changes he would make to Harry Potter. Last edited by k4r6000; October 26th, 2006 at 4:25 am. |
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No it wouldn't. Penguin was still a man who acted and spoke like upper class and looked like a Penguin. All else is minor technicality.
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Either way, comic book heroes can be more freely adapted (as long as the basic premise and main characters are retained) simply because of how bastardised their story telling continuity is. Series like HP and LotR are not bastardised as they are consistently told with definate beginnings and ending by single authors. Last edited by psycha; October 26th, 2006 at 8:08 am. |
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There is at least one quality in each movie that strikes me as bad or boring, mostly in PoA and GoF:
PoA: The Time-Turner scene, in my mind, wasn't remotely interesting until Harry performs the Patronus Charm. I also think it was important to explain the Fidelius (spelling?) Charm. Harry really didn't have any real concrete reason to believe that Sirius is innocent until Peter fesses up. GoF: Where do I start? Hermione's acting (no one sue me!), the huge scene with the dragon that really didn't need to happen; if they had kept it short, like the book, they could have built up other scenes. One thing I must give this movie: the graveyard scene was very well done as far as being close to the book and as far as being a piece of filmography that could stand on its own two feet. But, quite frankly, I like to pretend that this movie never happened. |
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It goes to show that there is something wrong when people who defend the certain changes of a comic book character is by referring to some obscure moment in Batman's history or blaming it on multiple retcons, timelines or different interpretations of different canons. But I do have to point out, some of the my favorite comic book movies are one that do have slight differences (or in some cases extreme differences) from the canon. Namely The Hulk and Superman Returns. To me despite have some superficial things out of canon they were incredibly good movies. Quote:
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Penguin ACTED like an upper class man and strived to be that even though his condition suggested that he wasn't.
There is no canon for any of the Batman characters including details of origins, characterisaztion and even costumes. Even Batman's costume can be interpreted in a million different colours and subtle alterations and he'll still look like Batman. Put a woman in leather and a whip and she can claim she's Catwoman. Show a punk with a green mohawk, pale skin and red lipstick psychotic grin and he will come across as THE Joker. The tv shows are just as legit as anything else. There IS no Batman canon. His origin is that his parents were murdered by SOME mobster an then when he grew up he vowed to rid Gotham City of its crime by dressing as a bat. Everything else can be mythoplased any way anyone wants. That's why Batman has been probably the most successful comic book hero. Because unlike the others, he is a 100% myth than can be told in any way, shape, or form without ever seeming blasphemous. Because fo that, his stories are always refreshing and enjoyable and never bogged down by any heavy continuity changes. Sure, you can't make him a crime fighting drag queen with a chainsaw in a too too dress, but still his world is far more open to free interpretation than any other comic figure. Last edited by psycha; October 26th, 2006 at 4:38 pm. |
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All in all, Batman had been the most static character of all probably up until Infnite Crisis and now during One Year Later. So you are right, there is no canon specfically of Batman because of all the interpretations. But it's not about a specific storyline when it comes with comic-book characters; it's about that one storyline comprised from 1000 storylines. It goes to show, when even minor character seemed to have more canon changes than a battleship compared to Batman, he's really most stable and therefore should be easier to adapt than other superheroes. Last edited by DarwinMayflower; October 27th, 2006 at 12:36 am. |
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Mods are gonna beat us up for getting off topic...
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GOF in my opinion. I like the movie and everything, but they cut so much scenes out and changed so much scenes as well. Like when Barty Crouch dies in the movie, it makes sense, but it was done much better in the book. And they should've included when Harry and Dumbledore are arguing with Fudge toward the end of the book, that was a scene that I think definitely should have been in the movie. The people who don't read the books are just going to assume that the ministry hates Harry in OotP, instead of knowing that the ministry refused to believe Voldemort returned which is why the constantly discredit Harry in OotP. I also think it was stupid how Barty Crouch Jr. was kept alive instead of being killed by the dementors.
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I don´t know really.......it´s just a fact ( for me at least) that the movies never will reach the books magical appeal.
So it´s hard to tell really, for I never even think about the movies while reading the books......but I would say GoF. The scene with Neville "I´ve killed Harry Potter" just killed it for me. ![]()
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POA is my fav book and film. I didn't care for 4. The 4th film moved so fast that it was very hard for me to keep up with it. The book is better for explaining its own part of the story. I didn't care much for the second film either. I still don't know why.
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Besides, ron had serious moments in Gof and Harry had moments of subtle amusement (like he's supposed to)...did this confuse people or make it less enertaining? i think most people preferred that they had personalities and in the queen's sketch that was done...the characters were much more equal and like they're supposed to be - and that was much better! Quote:
Surely characters are allowed to change over time, too. what about hermione? the difference in her character between film 2 and 3 is much greater than giving ron few better lines is!!! andthat is my point of view.
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I also wish they would get Danny Elfman to score the last movie.
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Which is why these movies arn't very good.
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PoA!!! They hardly got anything right?? There was NOTHING with Crookshanks in it. What are they going to do if Crookshanks turns out to be important?
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If Crookshanks is important in Book 7, then he will be reintroduced to the story in Movie 7. Audiences won't care how Crookshanks was portrayed in POA, as it will have no effect on the story of Movie 7.
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