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Old November 5th, 2005, 12:54 am
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Personally, I think it depends on the circumstance and the tone it's said in! Sometimes it can become annoying whenever someone uses it unneccessarily and liberally, but on the whole it doesn't bother me too much (hell, I use it myself in times of great anger-I mime though; well I do when I'm angry at my parents or my brother, I go up to my room and mime a tantrum, that is usually fluent in expletetives! If my parents heard me I'd be in trouble (which is hypocritical of them, because the swear when they argue)!
I'd actually really like to find out who (or how we, as people) came up with the idea of 'swear words'-want is the point of inventing controversy and taboo?


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Old November 5th, 2005, 1:19 am
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I said before that I only use it occasionally around my friends, but I also use it if I hurt myself really badly, I know I shouldnt, but it just comes out. Last week at my cricket game, I was warming up to bat and my coach was throwing crickt balls on the full really hard at me and one hit my on my thigh (anyone who has experienced this knows how painful it can be!) and quite stupidly, i wasnt wearing a thigh pad and i yelled (a little too loudly) "FU....rrr out!" a lot of the time, if you dont WANT to say the 'f' word you can stop yourself. (also at our cricket venue words seem to echo a bit, just to make it worse)
so, the 'f' word, IMO is not all that offensive, but it should not be overused and possibly only in spare of the moment situations before you have time to think about what you're saying.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 1:53 am
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I hear the "f" word all the time at school so I don't really feel offended when I hear it. I agree with those of you who only use it to express emotions. Like if you get hurt or something. I personally do not say it, because I don't find it necessary. I do hate it how people say it every single sentence they speak. There is a kid a few lockers down from me and he is always like, "wait i need to open my f****** locker." and he says it every sentence that he says. That is not necessary at all. I hate when people say it to sound cool or to be all "gangsta" and everything, it sounds so stupid. I think it makes people sound not very intelligent at all, (no offense to those who do say the word constantly). It also depends on how you express the word and what you are talking about.

If the word is directed at me then I do feel offended because I am nice to everyone so there is no reason to call me anything related to that word. Although, I don't think it ever has been directed at me, but if it was, that would be how I would feel. In general, I just hear it so often when I am in school so I am pretty use to hearing it, I think it has lost some of its effect.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 3:19 am
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I agree that it's the way that the word is delivered that makes it offensive. You can make the word tube offensive if you want - "You are a tubing idiot, aren't you?" And if tube is used as a profanity for long enough, it will eventually be viewed as profane or crude. I can assure you that if everyone viewed "F" as a perfectly normal word, then it wouldn't be in the least offensive. It's not the word but our reaction to it and the intention behind it that gives it the meaning that it does.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 4:03 am
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In the right circumstance, I think it can actually be funny. Some people can just "swear well". They do it with just the right emphasis, with just the right emotion in their voice, in such a way that can really get one giggling. Toby Maguire, for instance, swears excellently. Watch "Pleasantville" for an apt demonstration of this- it isn't anything too bad. The F word, when used in raw emotion in real life, does have an affect on me, but so do other obscenities. Most of the time I find it used in a humourous or non-serious context, and then I think it's fine, so long as it isn't done in school or around children. I use it myself a bit.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 4:14 am
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Sorry this next point is directed at Wandering Bard who I thought was the post preceeding mine. "Yes but the point is you're not going to go up to the Prime Minister and say "effing brutal debate this session, wasn't it?"

EDIT: I should clarify - I don't like the word 'offensive' to describe my sentiments about it - 'unsavoury' would be a better word. I don't condone using it in front of children for reasons I've already discussed. I don't think it should be written out of the English lexicon forever. I just think that given the social connotations of the word, it is not something to be taken as 'just a word' because we have made it into more than 'just a word'. And no I don't fly off the handle when people use it - my friends use it constantly and I don't go preaching down their throats. I also use it myself in certain situations.

EDIT: Tiberius actually said what I was trying to say in a much more succinct and understandable manner.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 4:40 pm
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I think people who use it frequently are a bit stupid though.
I completely agree with you. As I've mentioned before, if it's used unnecessarily it gets on my nerves. I cringe when people in my school greet other with a , "hey mother f*****"
Disgusting- and all becasue they think it's a "cool" word. That is the stupidest logic I've ever heard.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 5:00 pm
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I strongly dislike the F-word....most of the people who use it only say that word...its like they don't have any other words in their vocabulary. I think that it makes people seem trashy and vulgar.
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Old November 5th, 2005, 11:15 pm
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When I was in the cinema reciently a character shouted out: "You f****** knacker". And everyone started getting all shocked and offended by the word 'knacker'.


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Old November 5th, 2005, 11:23 pm
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You can make the word tube offensive if you want - "You are a tubing idiot, aren't you?" And if tube is used as a profanity for long enough, it will eventually be viewed as profane or crude.
Err, that doesn't quite work. The word "tube" will never have the same connotations as other four-lettered expletives.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:36 am
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I agree that it's the way that the word is delivered that makes it offensive. You can make the word tube offensive if you want - "You are a tubing idiot, aren't you?" And if tube is used as a profanity for long enough, it will eventually be viewed as profane or crude. I can assure you that if everyone viewed "F" as a perfectly normal word, then it wouldn't be in the least offensive. It's not the word but our reaction to it and the intention behind it that gives it the meaning that it does.
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Err, that doesn't quite work. The word "tube" will never have the same connotations as other four-lettered expletives.
Well my cousin were always mad at me because I told her that she's "peeeeeep". Peeep was a swear word for her and she always started to cry when somebody said that to her. So you can turn any word in a swear word. Tiberius is right in my opinion. It's our reaction on the words that makes them to bad words.

And who says that this f-word is bad? I mean a rose smells good because we are told that they does. But what would be our reaction on them when we were teached that roses smell disgusting? ... Same with the swear words.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:44 am
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I'm only offended when do-gooders try to keep it from being said.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 1:12 am
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Well my cousin were always mad at me because I told her that she's "peeeeeep".
How old is your cousin?


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Old November 6th, 2005, 2:25 am
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I've gotta respectfully disagree with you, Rotsie. Using "F" as an insult is not so much to do with the word as with the intonations that it is delivered with. if you said "F" to a baby in the same tone as you say "Goo goo gaa", the baby will think it's fantastic. The tone of voice and the body language of the person saying it is what really conveys a word as being insulting. I'm sure that if you went to a country where you didn't speak the native language, you'd still be able to tell when someone is directing an expletive at you.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 3:01 am
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I am so used to people saying the "F" word that I am not offended by it anymore. Most of my friends say it on an everyday basis. I have actually used it a few times myself when I was in a very bad mood, but usually I don't actually say it. It does become offensive when somebody uses it excessively. I don't like it when people swear in front of young children, because they won't even know what it means and will probably repeat it.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 5:30 am
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I've gotta respectfully disagree with you, Rotsie. Using "F" as an insult is not so much to do with the word as with the intonations that it is delivered with. if you said "F" to a baby in the same tone as you say "Goo goo gaa", the baby will think it's fantastic. The tone of voice and the body language of the person saying it is what really conveys a word as being insulting. I'm sure that if you went to a country where you didn't speak the native language, you'd still be able to tell when someone is directing an expletive at you.
That's because the baby has no idea of the meaning of it. For the baby it's just a friendly noice. I frequently call my cat a bandit and an usurpator. Doesn't offend her. As soon as you know the meaning of the 'F', it's at least vulgar and often enough also insulting.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 6:08 am
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That's my point - it's not the word that's offensive, it's the way it is said. the tone of voice. You can say to your cat, "You're a wonderful cat," but if you use an angry tone, the cat will react as though you were upset with it.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 6:59 am
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Obviously the meaning of words has got a lot to do with whether or not someone views it as offensive or not.

If people weren't offended by what words actually meant, then most of our vulgar slang wouldn't be dominated by four-lettered expletives that mainly refer to sex or genitalia.

I don't care how words are delivered -- if someone were to affectionately refer to me as a f-head, I wouldn't think of them particularly highly.


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Old November 6th, 2005, 7:02 am
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It's so interesting how slang changes across languages. If you were speaking quebecois french, anything Catholic would be highly offensive. (Tabernacle, chalice, lots of the paraphernalia). It shows what offended French sensiblities at the time it was conceived. Does that make the English speaker more uptight about sex then?


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Old November 6th, 2005, 7:28 am
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Does that make the English speaker more uptight about sex then?
It's not a phenomenon exclusive to the English-speaking world. There are direct equivalents in German, for example. It's probably got more to do with Christianity than the English language.


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Lunch was six dollars and thirty-one cents at the Lamplighter Inn, that's on Highway Two near Lewis Fork.
That was a tuna fish sandwich on whole wheat, slice of cherry pie, and a cup of coffee.
Damn good food. Diane, if you ever get up this way that cherry pie is worth a stop.

 
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