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Old February 3rd, 2009, 11:51 pm
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The more you mess with a base image the more the quality is degraded. So yea, it's better to shrink only once and only sharpen after you get it to its final size.


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Old February 3rd, 2009, 11:53 pm
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I actually sharpen before I resize. I find that the end product doesn't look as grainy.


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Old February 4th, 2009, 12:27 am
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Really? I find that if I sharpen beforehand I always have to sharpen again after I resize anyway so I only do it afterward. Who knows though?


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You should do an unsharp mask then.


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I usually do.
I have no consistency though. I do things different ways every time based on how much I care. so sometimes I just dupe the layer, sharpen and adjust the opacity if I don't want to fiddle with a bunch of dials. *iz lame*


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For sharpening sometimes I duplicate the image, set to soft light (or screen) > copy-merge and paste on a new layer then sharpen that layer and fiddle with the opacity. It's less harsh that regular sharpening can be.

So to break it down it would be

base layer
duplicate
set top layer to soft light or screen
copy merge
paste on as a new layer
sharpen
adjust opacity
smooth skin,image as needed.


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Is all this stuff about sharpening for gimp?

that reminds me, is there a way to sharpen in photoshop besides the sharpen tool? since that's pretty awful at sharpening images


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I am not a fan of sharp images, which is likely evident by now. I use blur much more than sharpen. But, when I do wish for sharpening, I do it the same way vita explained, which I learned in a tutorial. I don't recall ever sharpening an entire photo though; generally I carefully select small portions to sharpen - but it is very time consuming. I don't like the result of 'find edges' automatic selection process, so I always do it by hand. In my above avatar, I blurred the bottom half of the photo, but sharpened the leaves a bit with the method I talk about below.

Since I dislike terrifically sharp photos, I use burn in a similar manner with the histogram and it sharpens with less definition than duping and sharpening does. I actually love the way it turns out better - although as a person who does not prefer sharp photos, it may only be better to my eye.


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what does history brush do anyways? I could never figure it out

well, not the art history brush, i just don't know about the regular history brush


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what's a history brush?


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it's this brush in photoshop, except i have no idea what it does


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For sharpening sometimes I duplicate the image, set to soft light (or screen) > copy-merge and paste on a new layer then sharpen that layer and fiddle with the opacity. It's less harsh that regular sharpening can be.
Yes exactly, and it feels like you have more control that way as well.

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what does history brush do anyways? I could never figure it out.
I've never really used it (except accidentally). Basically it lets you select a step from your history list and "paint on" that effect on your current image. Here's a tutorial that discusses it. Or you can search for it on YouTube and see it in action


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My desktop fell to pieces today and I plugged in my laptop till I can replace it tomorrow. Looking at some of the graphics, I note that everything looks completely washed out or very bright or odd on this monitor. I could adjust it of course, but it dawned on me that we are not all likely seeing the same thing when looking at one another's work. . I hope no one has this setting - but there are a couple of graphics that actually look somewhat better on this computer, so it made me wonder if you guys had discussed some type of universal settings in the past that these will be looked at with...?


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My desktop fell to pieces today and I plugged in my laptop till I can replace it tomorrow. Looking at some of the graphics, I note that everything looks completely washed out or very bright or odd on this monitor. I could adjust it of course, but it dawned on me that we are not all likely seeing the same thing when looking at one another's work. . I hope no one has this setting - but there are a couple of graphics that actually look somewhat better on this computer, so it made me wonder if you guys had discussed some type of universal settings in the past that these will be looked at with...?
Sorry to hear about your laptap.

Basically what would be needed is something to calibrate our monitors, like the Pantone huey or the Colorvision Spyder. I'd love to get something like this so that I know that at least what I'm working on is the correct color/brightness. We can't control what it looks like for everyone else, of course.


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Ive often become frustrated with how my graphics look on other monitors. Especially during contests :\ A universal setting would be nice but still i think it depends on the age of the monitor and the users personal preferences.


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Ah...well you would all have a great laugh at what I am seeing with my new desk top monitor. It is a 24" and everything is currently stretched across the screen until I learn how to adjust it. . My laptop was fine, it was my desk top that cracked - but all is well now. The blur effect I employ is magnified like 800x's and it is hilarious. I think this has cured me of that particular fondness - at least to that extent. If nothing else the incident has caused me to see I need to sharpen up.


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Here is a decent tutorial, though the blue-green is still a bit much. I'd replace the last two coloring layers with #F246E8 (a bright pink) set on soft light and maybe a brown (on a low opacity). Using that and adjusting brightness/contrast I got this:

which isn't amazing, but's better than the lime green of so many of them IMO gives you a good skin tone at least
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When I started working with my laptop (Christmas gift from the hubby), I realized things look a lot different here than on the pc. I suppose this is an issue with most of us, as we think our icon(s) is fine, only to have comments about it either being too washed out or too dark, among other things. At first, I thought it was personal preference. Apparently not.


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i haven't entered a LIMS before so i'm curious to see what people will say about my icons , but anyways, i think my monitor is like at an average setting since a lot of other computers i've been on, my images still look relatively similar or ok looking.


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You should do an unsharp mask then.
I never have much success with unsharp mask--too fiddly. I usually do sharpen then edit fade sharpen. Also I find adjusting the levels and contrast helps to sharpen things a bit.


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