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Re: Severus Snape: Character Analysis v.8

Originally Posted by ignisia View Post
It's interesting that Snape says the map is "full of Dark Magic", while Lupin counters that it seems an insulting but harmless prank. Where have I heard that before?
I am not sure where you have heard that before. But we know the map was not full of dark magic. The only portion that Snape saw at that point was indeed nothing more than an insulting and harmless prank. Surely Snape, who spoke in a more sarcastic and abrasive manner to his own students saw the dark humor in the messages? Although since they were directed at him, he may not have found them funny. I always saw Snape in canon as a person who derived pleasure from doling it out, but could not take it at all.

I love the way everyone communicates here. Nearly all of Snape words have more than one meaning. He's so convinced that Lupin knows what he's talking about that he sends the man hidden messages, trying to tell him he's onto him.
To be honest, I have a hard time believing that Snape didn't recognize the names. The Marauders were shown to have used them openly and even in front of Snape (SWM). So I believe he had to know the map was an invention of the Marauders. That to me made it ironic that he would say it was full of dark magic, because he knew it would not be associated with dark magic at all, but rather he was the one up to dark magic back in those days. However, he may have simply said it to try and goad Lupin to anger - toward the end of exposing him as Sirius' helper. But if that was his goal, it would not have succeeded because when it came to the negligible, Lupin was the least goadable person in canon.

And then, on the other side, Lupin sends hidden messages to Harry with glances, expressions, and excuses. And Harry's not talking at all because he doesn't want to get in more trouble than he is. No one is being forward. They're all being so secretive that I'm guessing nobody really understood each other much by the time Ron came in.
. But actually I think that there was some understanding going on. I believe Snape knew the map belonged to the Marauders in the past (he even suggested the 'owners' gave it to Harry); and that Lupin understood he was insinuating that he was in with Black. Snape I think understood Lupin was hedging, but did not understand the real reason why. Lupin in fact was assisting Harry. I think he understood that mischief was in Harry's blood (in fact JKR confirmed this was true in an article speaking about his nature, I'll link it below), and was giving him some quarter. But Lupin did make Harry feel ashamed of himself afterward; where Snape had only made him angry. I also feel everyone present knew Ron was lying .

JKR's Inspiration for Harry's character:    

Demetriou, Danielle. "Harry Potter and the source of inspiration," The Daily Telegraph (London), July 1, 2000
THE author of the best-selling Harry Potter books revealed for the first time yesterday the identities of the people who inspired her characters.

Ian Potter, whose childhood antics have startling similarities to those of the fictional schoolboy wizard, lived just four doors away from J K Rowling as she was growing up in the village of Winterbourne, near Bristol. Cantankerous Aunt Marge, the overweight and beastly relative who keeps bulldogs, was based on Rowling's maternal grandmother Frieda, who preferred "her dogs to human relatives", according to the author. Inspiration for Professor Snape, the spine-chilling teacher at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, who made Harry's life a misery, was drawn from a teacher at Rowling's former school - although she declined to name him. The character of Ron Weasley, one of Harry's best friends who comes from a poor but loveable family, was based on Rowling's oldest friend, Sean. His full identity remains hidden. Harry's other best friend Hermione, the studious and courageous book-lover described by Rowling as the "most brilliant" of the three friends, is the author as a young girl. Rowling, 34, said yesterday: "My American editor says that I am mean to her because she is me. But I don't think that I am mean to her. I love her dearly."

More than 30 million Harry Potter books have been sold worldwide since 1997 and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, the fourth in a series of seven books, will be published next week with a print run of one million copies. The Hollywood film "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" is expected to be released in November 2001.

Dressing up as wizards and witches, concocting fantasy potions and telling stories were just a few of the games Rowling played as a child with Ian Potter and his little sister Vikki. Mr Potter admitted that he was a mischievous boy who loved playing pranks. "The girls, including Joanne, used to dress up as witches all the time," said Mr Potter, 35, a damp-proofer, who lives in Yate, near Bristol. "And the boys, obviously, would be wizards. I was one for tricks, especially in my younger days. I used to get my sister and Joanne to go in for me and ask my parents if I could stay out a bit later."

Mr Potter, whose two daughters, Charlotte, nine, and Shannon, five, are both Harry Potter fans, said he felt privileged to have played a role in the creation of the childhood hero. Vikki Potter, his younger sister, described how he was always getting into mischief in a similar way to the fun-loving trainee wizard Harry. "Ian was the perfect inspiration for the mischief- making wizard character," said Miss Potter, 32, of Chipping Sodbury. "He was a total nightmare, a real horror. He used to do things like booby-trapping the stabilisers on my bike, collecting tadpoles in jars and then plastering the green slime everywhere. He had this thing about slugs." Miss Potter, a sales director at a software company, also recalled how Rowling would make potions and read stories as part of their fantasy games.

"I think it's mad to have a hero called Potter but that's typical of Joanne," she said. "We were forever dressing up. Our favourite thing to dress up as was witches. We used to dress up and play witches all the time. My brother would dress up as a wizard. "Joanne was always reading to us. She used to read things like poetry and we would make secret potions for her. She would always send us off to get twigs for the potions."

Rowling's grandmother Frieda, who inspired Aunt Marge, was illegitimate, born of Scottish parents. She was abandoned in a London nursing home, whose owners adopted her.


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